In this episode, we catch up with John Jackson (@johnjhacking) an Application Security Engineer at Shutterstock. John never thought he would have a career sitting at a computer, let alone in cybersecurity. We walk through John's journey from being a Petroleum Engineer in the United States Marine Corps to eventually working in application security, penetration testing, security research and bug bounties. We also discuss the reality of applying for hundreds of jobs to land something, taking different roles to help him progress and a story that highlights some of the dangers that can happen to curious security researchers.